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ABBA star, Bjorn Ulvaeus, on Mamma Mia and Brexit sadness | The Economist Podcast

Bjorn Ulvaeus, one of the stars of ABBA, sits down with Anne McElvoy, head of Economist Radio, to talk about music, politics and what it is like to hear world-famous actors sing your world-famous songs.

Chapter One: On “Mamma Mia Here We Go Again”

00:06 The Economist asks about what it is like to meet long-standing fans
01:29 The Economist asks why it was right to make a new movie
02:42 The Economist asks if all four members of ABBA need to give permission for a new project
03:01 The Economist asks what it is like to have other people performing ABBA songs
03:58 The Economist asks about the distinctive ABBA sound
04:35 The Economist asks why ABBA is getting back together
05:50 The Economist asks how they are making music to be suited for today
07:06 The Economist asks to hear a line from one of ABBA’s new songs
07:38 The Economist asks what topics ABBA wants to deal with in their new music
09:02 The Economist asks what the secret is to writing a pop song

Chapter Two: On society today

09:48 The Economist asks if any ABBA lyrics should be changed for the #MeToo era
10:52 The Economist asks if feminism has changed the presentation of the band today
12:02 The Economist asks what Bjorn means in describing himself as a “humanist”
12:47 The Economist asks if there is a song that sums up Bjorn’s political outlook
13:38 The Economist asks about what Bjorn thinks about Brexit
14:53 The Economist asks if Swedish social democratic ideal is also “in tatters”

Chapter Three: Reflecting on the old days of ABBA

15:46 The Economist asks how Swedish ABBA’s music is
17:41 The Economist asks which ABBA song has Marilyn French, the feminist writer, in it
18:34 The Economist asks how much Bjorn has changed since the start of ABBA
19:44 The Economist asks what song Bjorn would take to desert island

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